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 Post subject: Re: Kifflom Message, "Join Now".
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:41 pm 
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Some Hunts based on the Kifflom message...

You know there is some words repeated 2 times in the message:
"To" and "Father"

So i tried to remove those words, and change the place of the next letters and words.
Normaly, with the message, the 3 ks of Kifflom, Krant, Kraff, are alined, but if we remove the words, they aren't any more...
Perhaps a way of Hunt, to put chaos were there is peace will drive us somewhere ?! ^^

I also pointed all the Ks in the message, perhaps a patern will appear...

Here all the possible page settings with one, or the 2 words removed, and with the next words and letters moved :
Attachment:
lines 2.jpg


Ach...the last one didn't worked, here it is:
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Lines 3.jpg



And the paterns of the K points compared to the Snake Constellation, and the UFO map
I forgot a K in the first pic of the message's points, plus the K of Kraff just under the pic of his descendant.
Sad because it was near to be looking like ^^
Attachment:
points 2.jpg


So, my idea since the beggening is that the Pas-s pictured in the brochure is the face of Kraff' descendant.
And we can find this patern in the game, it's still possible.
If we find a place looking like the patern, or looking like an eye, we can overlay the pic of the Kraff' descendant, plus the line and the 3 ks.
Those Ks will be like crosses, showing us places to Check.

But now, with all those other Ks, we've got more places to Hunt, if, IF, we find the place corresponding to the Kraff' descendant Birthmark.

Is this clear ?
I'm sure it's not ^^
Even for me :lol:


You know?? the word " To " may be the big hint in this^^^
1) T => Toreno
2) T => The Truth =>2 " T" s.
3) T => Tenpenny

Any clues here^any additions??
or am I just seeing " T " in cloud formations?



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 Post subject: Re: Kifflom Message, "Join Now".
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:41 am 
You're seeing "T" in cloud formations :mrgreen:


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kifflom Message, "Join Now".
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:56 am 
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^^^Yeah,most likely,but..hey! "t"s ? why not? we have hunted stranger things :P



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 Post subject: Re: Kifflom Message, "Join Now".
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:16 pm 
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Kifflom, Brother-Uncle, Raise in the Snake farm.

Kifflom raise like Jesus, in the Snake farm ?
What ?!
Where did this fool find this ?

Friends-Hunters, i found it on the Kifflom message !

Let me explain :
You remember my idea about the 3 K of Kifflom, Krant, and Kraff alined in the message.
My idea was to find a place in the game where we can overlay the picture of the Kraff'descendant face (and the 3 Ks of the message), with a place in the SA map...
Perhaps the Ks can be simply...Crosses, like in a treasure Hunt ^^

So, i decided to Hunt around Regular Tom, trying to resize the picture of the Birthmark in order to obtein the same size that the area around the desert.

There is several possible matchs:
Attachment:
Tom 1.jpg

Attachment:
Tom 2.jpg

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Tom 3.jpg


And more, because the shape isn't really the same, so it's possible to make it rotate a few degrees more or less.

Perhaps it will be more easy to overlay directly the eye, even if the shape don't match if we align the eye with the center of Regular Tom, let's try...
The problem is the shape of the Birthmark gived us some ways, not precise, but ways anyway ^^
Here, with only the eye of Tom, we just have for reference the distance between the eye of the face and the Ks.
So, don't need the complete picture of the Birthmark and the points anymore, just 3 circles, corresponding to the 3 distance between the eye of the face, and the 3 Ks.
A picture, it's more simple ^^ :

Here how to know the distance, with my old Paint...Put the 3 lines parralel to the floor, one by one, and make a line between the eye and the K.
Then, take any tool to control how long is the distance.
We obtein 3 radius, for 3 concentric circles :
Attachment:
3 lines.jpg

A detail, but keep it in mind !

So, it give 3 circles, with the good size, and centered on the Tom eye:
Attachment:
3 circles.jpg


And we can do like that for each place looking like an eye, cool, isn't it ?

Ok...Now, the reason why i told in the beggening "Kifflom, Brother-Uncle, Raise in the Snake farm."

Did you keep in mind the picture of the Birthmark, the 3 Ks, and the 3 lines to the 3 Ks ?!
You should ! ^^
Look at the Kifflom message, when we overlay the pic, and the text :
Attachment:
Kifflom message.jpg


Follow the biggest line, from the eye to the last K, Kraff.

You cut the words "Kifflom", "Brother-Uncle", "Raise" "in" "Kraff" .

....Ok, but why did he talk about the Snake Farm, what's the link with Kraff ?

Because, look again the 3 circles picture...
The last circle, the one corresponding to the K of Kraff, p@ss by the...Snake Farm ! ^^

So, this sentence can take a sense if we look in the good angle...
Perhaps it's not the truth, but it's a good way of Hunt !
We can change the place for the center of the circles, for exemple the little lake in Verdant Bluff, or else.
We can also change the size of the circles.
Those ones have this size on the map because it was at the birthmark scale, but it can be different, if we find a biggest shape on the map than the Regular Tom area.


Anyway, i was happy to share my Hunt of the day ^^


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 Post subject: Re: Kifflom Message, "Join Now".
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:35 pm 
You like geometry so much, Troll? It's not the first time I see you drawing lines and concluding theories form them!


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kifflom Message, "Join Now".
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:53 pm 
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Why not?
I think it's a very good idea, to hunt on how the message is shown in epsilonprogram.com and not only on the words or the possible meaning of them,
its just another approach to the hunt, another way to hunt,
maybe R* chose this words in the message just because they fit in an overlay, instead of a different thing;


what I'm trying to say is, that maybe, because the sentences in the "Join Us" are so confusing, and we can seem to have any possible idea to what (the words) mean, maybe they mean something else; maybe they are so criptic because it's suppose to be something we overlay to the map, not something we try to make sense out of it

So if anything, I favor any theory like it, because it may work and it's creative.



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 Post subject: Re: Kifflom Message, "Join Now".
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:01 pm 
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Yes ^^agree great work.

Question;
can two snake eggs laid,hatch into one ?

is the answer clone?

I seem to recall this^^but can't remember the event..in real life,unless its DNA manipulation.

if the two snakes are CLONES then they ARE .... " ONE " and the same..from birth.

a puzzle of words? or what?


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 Post subject: Re: Kifflom Message, "Join Now".
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:32 pm 
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Well, two snakes can be used to make a Caduceus, a double helix, can be seen as a representation of a dna strand, so two snakes can sort of make up one human.


   
 
 Post subject: Re: Kifflom Message, "Join Now".
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Caduceus..such as a representation..before DNA was known to humans,its effect was known by the ancients,thus alien DNA manipulation..two clones can be ONE at birth..interesting.

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